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Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007, 11:07 am
A visit from the BNP

A few days ago I came across a blog by a BNP supporter. I'm not linking to it because I'm not willing to increase a BNP website's Google ranking, but here's a quote from one of his entries.

The Fabians seek to destroy all religions; they seek to destroy all nations; they seek to destroy the concepts of masculinity and femininity and they seek to destroy cultures. They seek to recreate the world with a centralised dictatorship; socialism is their vehicle and socialism has been the vehicle of cultural destruction and genocides throughout the 20th century with the Fabians behind the scenes.

Marx, Ghandi, Lenin, Trotsky and even Adolph Hitler were all Fabians influenced. Adolph Hitler was trained at the Fabians Tavistock Institute during 1912-13. The media and predominantly the BBC, the New British Brainwashing Corporation, utilises Neuro Linguistic Programming and Neuro Associative programming to bend the minds of the British public. It is based on the idea that mind, body and language interact to create an individual's perception of the world and those perceptions and behaviours, can be changed via Neuro Linguistic Re-programming and Neuro Associative Re-programming.

A trivial yet obvious example is the propensity of the colour RED throughout the BBC’s programming. Why is RED so predominant? Red squares, red ties, red backgrounds, red jackets, the red globe intro on BBC news, the BBC’s Red nose day, the RED streak that darts around the world prior to the BBC news. In reality do you see this much red? How many red ties do you see every day? You see more red ties on one single viewing of the BBC than you would in your entire life. This is Neuro- Associative re-conditioning for the RED flag. The BBC news logo and the New Labour Party logo use the same RED square and white type.


The usual old Protocols of the Elders of Zion guff with the wording changed to "Fabians" instead of "Jews".

I was amused by the fact that apparently Red Nose Day is part of a subliminal campaign to brainwash us into Communism. Also that Adolf Hitler was apparently in Britain in 1912-13, training in psychoanalysis at the Tavistock Clinic (which wasn't founded until 1920). Since he was actually a penniless artist in Vienna and Munich at the time, if he wanted to learn psychoanalysis he might have been better off staying in Vienna and looking up Sigmund Freud.

I left a comment telling them they're off their rockers.

Still, everyone's entitled to a right to reply. He's left a comment on my Livejournal.

For your benefit, here is his wisdom.

Research had been conducted in psychological mass manipulation for socialist propaganda during the late 19th century. Mass manipulation techniques were carried out in Tavistock and Newton Abbot both small villages on the edge of Dartmoor in Devon prior to and during WWI. The PUBLIC Tavistock Clinic was founded in a private house in Tavistock Square after WWI in 1920.

RED nose day…. You obviously know nothing of the subtlety of neuro associative conditioning. Associate pleasure to an object, colour, sound, smell etc., and that enters the nervous system as a pleasurable experience; it’s not hard to understand.

RED is an important colour to communists and they must associate as much pleasure as possible including RED nose day. Ken Livingstone is holding a carnival across London in 2009 celebrating Fidel Castro’s communist Cuba uprising. Again associating pleasure to communism. There isn’t anything loony about RED nose day helping the communist cause. Haven’t you heard of RED Ken.

Wake up Spirit of 1976


Erm, quite.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 11:32 am (UTC)
[info]killtest: TOO funny

Just found this by accident.

I suppose my usual answer to these people of AK-47 is just a tad to RED.. (Did I say 'people'? Tsk, sorry tip of the slongue)

Going to stick a link to this in my LJ, is that OK?

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:02 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976: Re: TOO funny

Yeah, go ahead.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 11:36 am (UTC)
[info]malvino

What a freakshow. Do you think he's serious, or a smrt guy who's cunningly infilrated the BNP in order to help marginalise them and turn them into conspiracy nuts?

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 09:03 pm (UTC)
[info]_onlysmarties__

Do they need help?

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
[info]killtest

Turn?

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 11:41 am (UTC)
[info]brewhexe

So all clowns are communists? I find clowns mildly disturbing but I wouldn't have thought it was anything to do with those red noses. Thank you BNP for showing me the light!!

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

I wouldn't know. I was sitting in my lounge this morning watching BBC News 24, trying to deal with my hangover, and my fist kept involuntarily coming up in this sort of clenched salute. All these weird thought flashes started coming into my mind. Stuff about "establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat" and having "nothing to lose but our chains".

If you'll excuse me, I need to go and...join the Communist Party. It's just some strange compulsion that's coming over me.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
[info]evillottie

That would explain why they're so damn scary. They try to entertain you before sneakily handing you a copy of Socialist Worker.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:24 pm (UTC)
[info]clytemenstra

Oops, that means I must be subliminally training the kids to accept communism - I write GOOD comments in books in red ink, and BAD ones in green. Therefore, I am also part of the conspiracy in training people to associate red with pleasure. And so is Valentine's Day - Clinton Cards is also part of the Communist conspiracy...

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:27 pm (UTC)
[info]1mercystreet

I had a run in with a neonazi who popped up on the Lj "Occult" community the other day. I believe in myreplies I used the words "mindless pseudo-political dribbling" and "IQ in the negative figures". I used this icon of the Black Madonna/Vodou spirit Erzulie Dantor, just to piss him off.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

But what do I know? Apparently I "know nothing of the subtlety of neuro associative conditioning".

Well of course I've never had any training in psychology. I'm a...MENTAL HEALTH NURSE!!!!!!


God, if it really was possible to completely reprogramme peoples' brains by showing them some colours, my job would be a lot easier for a start.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)
[info]socialist_cook

Hahah Newton Abbot and Tavistock two small villages on the edge of Dartmoor eh?

First off Tavi is on the moor, and both it and Newton Abbot(which is not really just on the edge of the moor in my opinion) couldn't really be described as small villages even back in the 1910's... what a complete and utter nut.

Judith
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Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 02:59 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

I'm wondering if this is the reason he thinks the Tavistock Clinic is called the Tavistock Clinic?

Apart from the rather obvious explanation that it's on Tavistock Square.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:45 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)

So why is the BBC Archers bulletin board all yellow? Does it want to convert all Archers fans to the Liberal cause? And why is the front page of its website Blue? Does it want to bring out the Conservative element in visitors before converting them to Socialism on the news pages? (But not the sports pages, which are black and yellow.)

And what are we to make of the Times' new green site...

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 12:55 pm (UTC)
[info]evillottie

I wear red gloves and a red skirt for my burlesque routine. With my sexy dancing and gratuitous boobage, I will convert you all to Communism! BWAHAHAHAHA! Or maybe not.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 02:23 pm (UTC)
[info]killtest: "..red... *burleque routine*.." }}uncrosses eyes with pliers{{

..eep.. [info]ginasketch never mentioned THIS about you.. I can see she and I are going to have to have words...

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 01:17 pm (UTC)
[info]burkesworks

The Rothschild's Bank of England, eh? Yawn, yawn, yawn, it's always the Jews.

Hardly an original "thinker" in fascist terms, and fails on both geography and history. And while as you know I don't hold much truck with the Fabians, much less the communists, my arguments against what they believe wouldn't come lifted wholesale from Lyndon LaRouche. Not only is that type of right-wing conspiratorial bollocks kooky and peculiarly American, it sounds doubly wrong coming out of the mouth of a football hooligan from Bournemouth, who has some interesting photos here.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 01:25 pm (UTC)
[info]aspartamania

Also, cans of coke. Have you noticed recently that they're RED? Yet another clearcut example of neuro associative conditioning by bending our minds into believing COMMUNIST GENOCIDE is a refreshing fizzy beverage ideal for those hot summer days at the beach.

WAKE UP YOU PATHETIC BASTARD.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC)
[info]clytemenstra

So is Pepsi Max the property of the far right? Those cans boast an awful lot of blue...

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 03:03 pm (UTC)
[info]fififf

Its a real shame that an aboviously intelligent and articulate and anylitical man thinks such thoughts.

The red nose day thing really annoyed me as they money is raised to help children!!!!

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 03:13 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

Oh believe me, there is nothing "intelligent", "articulate" or "analytical" about this guy. He's a raving loony.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
[info]mippy

Oh no! I have RED hair.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 03:47 pm (UTC)
[info]spiritof1976

You were born Jewish communist.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 03:47 pm (UTC)
[info]hairyears

Never argue with the deluded.

Really never argue with violent psychotics.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
[info]_onlysmarties__

Guy in my history class. History A level students would, you would think, understand the dangers of extremism and discrimination, but not this guy. He said: "I think we should get rid of all the Muslims" and the whole class rounded on him and said "what?!" and he said "well, I don't mean kill them, but send them back to where they came from" I said "London? Stevenage? Manchester?" and continued to list places where Muslims 'come from'. He said, "no, you know, like Asia" "what about black African Muslims?" and he just shrugged. He reads the hymn sheet of the BNP (Mail), what a surprise, and believes recycling and turing lights off to be "stupid, liberal and uneccessary". When I asked him what was so 'liberal' about conserving the planet, he told me that Britain is only responsible for 2% of the world's CO2 emissions, and that it must be those Muslims. It's like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a circular saw.

To quote your personal loony:
Associate pleasure to an object, colour, sound, smell etc., and that enters the nervous system as a pleasurable experience; it’s not hard to understand.
Associating pleasure to wearing a red nose will either make people pleased to see red, or noses, or both. If the noses were worn by comminists, or had "VOTE MARXIST" written on them, perhaps the association between communisim and red noses would have some validity, but, really, it doesn't.

Sun, Feb. 25th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
[info]silent_siren1

Rudolph The Reindeer's nose is red,therefore he's a communist!In fact,Christmas is also communist,what's with the red?(Ignore the bit where everyone's encouraged to spend like a capitalistic pig during the holidays,heh.)

Tue, Feb. 27th, 2007 03:07 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

Hohohohohoho...nice one. Red Nose day is secretly a Communist propaganda tool? Damn, I can't believe I didn't figure that out sooner. Don't worry, I'll spread the word by putting on my red nose and goose-stepping in front of King's College.

Heh. You mental nurses DO attract the mental types, don'tcha?

The Angry Medic
http://angrymedic.blogspot.com/

Wed, Feb. 28th, 2007 03:23 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): He’s wearing a F****ing Red tie

I thank God I wore my corset, because I think my sides have split. Tis a cunning plan indeed…

“Curiouser and curiouser!” Red nose day a subliminal plot eh! Where’s my anorak I’m compelled to delve.

Are the geographical errors, the surprising Hitler statement and ‘Red nose’ examples, deluded or deliberate? These points seemed to me, to be out of context to the main blog. Is he/she purporting to prove a point by means of startling the reader; excuse me…RED herrings?

If so, this blog has succeeded in drawing attention, it has certainly roused my curiosity, as, I have since noticed, Quote: “the propensity of the colour RED throughout the BBC’s programming.”

Is this a socialist plot or is RED their favourite corporate colour?

A cursory Google landed and advertising studio called ‘Advertandra.’ http://www.advertanda.com/

There front page copy announces: “Advertanda calls attention to advertising and propaganda, two vehicles describing the activity of promoting ideas, ways of life and material goods. Advertanda is dedicated to exploring the relationship between advertising and propaganda and their impact on our ability to interpret events in an increasing complex global environment.”

And then; oh dear… this is going to be controversial;

1. The USSR was a country that was conceived, designed and built by the most deviously exceptional minds of modern times. Having VERY modest resources at their disposal they toppled one of the largest, richest and strongest countries of the 19th century - the Russian Empire.

It actually states the above, “ the most devioiusly exceptional minds of modern times” Red nose? Surely not?

It gets worse, but I am compelled to quote this. I am gritting my teeth as I paste this in:

“The Color Red
Symbolism of the "revolutionary red color" is absolutely essential. It carries heavy political weight. A chilling explanation for the choice of the official communist color given to every child in the kindergarten: "... it's the color of blood of all Revolutionary Heroes who gave their lives for the happiness of the Working Class." Imagine, every child as Young Pioneer had to wear this blood (literally) red tie around his or her neck for years!

“Besides, red is the most effective visual irritator. Overwhelmingly dominant, it plays a central role in creating passive-aggressive living conditions that we mentioned above. My suspicion is that authorities intentionally used red paint even when it was not politically necessary. In this case they painted all Moscow street-cars in red - just to keep banging ones eye. I can't prove it, but know their "train of thought" quite well.”

“Key Message
Remember? It is not designed to communicate or inform - its purpose to dull via agitation.”

Again “It is not designed to communicate or inform.”

“Heightened Emotions
Propaganda invariably strikes the emotional chord connected with ideals of sacrifice, heroism, suffering or overcoming difficulties.."

Does Red nose day strike the emotional chords? Does it connect with ideals of sacrifice, heroism, suffering or overcoming difficulties?

“Hierarchy
The Visual Propaganda environment is hierarchical.” ... “The vocabulary consisted of top-level main symbols and sub-levels of lesser, supporting ones.”

Red nose day? “Sub-levels of lesser, supporting ones.”

Wed, Feb. 28th, 2007 03:44 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): He’s wearing a F****ing Red tie...continued

A quick Google and to my amusement I found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
“The Fabians also favored the nationalization of land, believing that rents collected by landowners were unearned, an idea which drew heavily from the work of American economist Henry George.”

“Their later admiration of Soviet Russia stemmed partly from Stalin's "efficiency" at acquiring this rent.”

“The group, which favoured gradual creeping change rather than revolutionary change..”

“Through the course of the 20th century the group has always been influential in Labour Party circles, with members including …Clement Attlee, Harold Wilson and more recently Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.”

Then this:

http://nord.twu.net/acl/research/fabian.html

“British Fabian socialism was created to promote international communism and free trade with a friendlier face. Unlike Marx's open and violent revolutionary agenda, the Fabian's agenda was to quietly infiltrate and re-direct established governments. “

" Today the Fabian socialist model dominates in all global political movements.”

“Fabianism is elite training in socialist propaganda. Fabian followers are called "agents for change." Fabian facilitators are installed in every government agency in the world, and they influence all mainstream media outlets.”

Quote: The usual old Protocols of the Elders of Zion guff with the wording changed to "Fabians"

I don’t like to say this, but, these few paragraphs do indicate a (creeping) Protocols quality!

As unlikely as it seems, it appears that it is not beyond the bounds of devious propaganda. If RED nose day were anything to do with subliminal RED propaganda at the (Sub-levels or lesser, supporting ones) it would be a repugnant abuse of the ethos and fine work of comic relief.

Unfortunately I know all I am going to see on TV now is bl**dy red.

A few of your random replies…

First notes; Cause and effect:

Cause:
Red nose day; subliminal association of RED with intention of linking pleasure with communism.

Some random comments:
Malvino…. “What a freakshow. Do you think he's serious, or a smrt guy who's cunningly infilrated the BNP in order to help marginalise them and turn them into conspiracy nuts?”

Thought!...Good point.

onlysmarties__ Associating pleasure to wearing a red nose will either make people pleased to see red, or noses, or both.

Thought!...Isn’t that the point he/she was making… pleased to see red? Quote: “A trivial yet obvious example is the propensity of the colour RED throughout the BBC’s programming.” Did he/she say ‘Trivial’ and ‘example’?

Joolsmd….. “So all clowns are communists? I find clowns mildly disturbing but I wouldn't have thought it was anything to do with those red noses. Thank you BNP for showing me the light!!”

Thought!... “So all clowns are communists?” “I find clowns mildly disturbing but I wouldn't have thought it was anything to do with those red noses.” Certainly, the murder of 60,000,000 peasants, farmers, workers, and intellectuals across Russia, Cambodia and China are not very amusing.

(Anonymous)… “And what are we to make of the Times' new green site...”

Thought! Actually I thought that was to keep in mode with the Green issue. And… Then there is the Conservative Party ‘Blue’ going green?

An article on the BBC website ‘Why is the Conservative Party blue?’

“Politicians often complain that instead of talking about their ideas and policies, people take more notice of the colour of the tie they're wearing.”

“Red has been the colour most strongly associated with the Labour Party since its foundation in 1900.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4923050.stm

That’s on the BBC website I didn’t write it!

The effect of the visit:
Grouping – they/he/she are stupid and evil - we are enlightened.

Ridicule - they're off their rockers; freakshow; complete and utter nut; right-wing conspiratorial bollocks; kooky; pathetic bastard; deluded; violent psychotics; loony and excrement.

LOL

Thu, Mar. 1st, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Everything is poo, nothing is permitted.

Stalin's red nose raises £140,000
by Hannah Summers. Friday, 9 February 2007

A blob of red paint turned a bog-standard £200 print of Stalin into a highly desirable modern classic which sold for £140,000 at Sotheby’s.

Of course, the blob in question was applied by doyen of Brit Art Damien Hirst. And it didn’t hurt that the print in question was the property of writer AA Gill, or that Comic Relief was to pocket the profits.

The picture of the Soviet dictator was snapped up in the record-breaking Sotheby’s sale by an Italian collector, Alice Valli Bulgari.

She said: “I am a great ­admirer of Damien Hirst’s and his art and was fascinated by the story behind the painting.

“I am very happy to have won this fantastic piece today and to know that the money will go to Comic Relief.”

The painting, which is a copy of a famous photograph of Stalin, was bought by Gill ten years ago at a London ­auction house for £200.

He said: “It used to hang over my desk in my office and when I moved house I decided I had had enough of it.

“But I had some difficulty selling it because nobody wanted to buy it because it is Stalin. So I asked Damien to paint a red nose on it.

“It is a proper piece of art and it works on a lot of levels. You put red dots on things when they are sold. It could be a communist red dot, it could be a bullet hole, but it also makes a joke of Stalin.”

A Sotheby’s spokeswoman said: “With a pre-sale estimate of just £8,000 to £12, 000, the work was the subject of a fierce bidding war.”

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs/Satellite/london/news?packedargs=date%3D2007-02-09